Rudy Giuliani, the former Trump lawyer and hair dye test mannequin at the center of efforts to overturn the 2020 election through legislative and legal efforts, reportedly sat for an interview with prosecutors from Jack Smith’s office under a proffer agreement, an arrangement that frequently precedes a formal cooperation agreement, the New York Times reports.
Mike Roman, a 2020 Trump campaign official involved in the plot to assign fake pro-Trump electors from various states to the Electoral College tally to disrupt the proper certification of Joe Biden’s victory, is cooperating with prosecutors from Special Counsel Jack Smith’s office, CNN reports. Roman’s phone had already been confiscated under a seizure order, and his deputy on the campaign testified before the grand jury last week.
Both Giuliani and Roman are working under proffer deals that allow them to testify via interviews with investigators rather than before a grand jury. While these interviews are done on the record, prosecutors agree to not use any information gathered in the interview against the witness.