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Rudy says Mar-a-Lago more secure than National Archives

The entire statement you are about to read (or listen to) is a lie.

Really, if you look at the Espionage Act, it’s not really about taking the documents, it’s about destroying ’em, or hiding ’em, or giving them to the enemy.  It’s not about taking them and putting them in a place roughly as safe as they were in the first place.  And then, when asked to give them back, give um, er, gives them back, um… voluntarily.  I mean, they already got 15 cartons back voluntarily at the beginning of the year.  I spoke to two of his lawyers today just to clarify this point but, they were there a month and a half before, examined everything they eventually took, and announced that everything was in good order.  [crosstalk] They bought into the idea he should keep them there, they told him to put another lock on.  They gave him advice on how to secure it at Mar-a-Lago in a way that they were satisfied with, and then they called back, asked if it was done, and they said we’re satisfied.

Disgraced suspended lawyer and hair dye crash test dummy Rudy Giuliani is wrong about virtually everything he says here.  The Espionage Act deals with stealing government documents; the very section Trump was being investigated for, 18 US Code § 793, is literally titled “Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information.”  Plus, Trump didn’t “voluntarily” comply with anything, hence the need to conduct the search; “voluntarily” means Trump would have turned them over the first time he was asked for them, not after a subpoena or an FBI search.  And no one in their right mind would say a basement at Mar-a-Lago is more secure than the National Archives… where the nation’s founding documents, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence are stored.

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