The government of Ukraine has released the transcript of a phone call Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani had with officials in Kyiv as he pushed Ukrainian leaders to help his client in his reelection campaign, Time Magazine reports in an exclusive.
“Let these investigations go forward,” Giuliani urged the Ukrainians in the 40-minute phone call from July 22, 2019. “Get someone to investigate this.” The phone call with Giuliani was part of the January 2020 impeachment trial of Trump, who himself pressured the Ukrainian president to help his campaign by opening an investigation into now-President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter.
“My only motive – it isn’t to get anybody in trouble who doesn’t deserve to be in trouble,” Giuliani lied. “For our country’s sake and your country’s sake, we [need to] get all these facts straight. We fix them and we put it behind us.”
Since the pressure from the Trump Administration on his government became public, the president of Ukraine has tried to put the issue behind him, not wanting to be a flashpoint in US politics.
“The past is the past,” Volodymyr Zelensky told Time in a statement on February 4. “I care deeply about the future of our relationship with the United States, so I want to focus on that.”
Igor Novikov, an advisor to Zelensky, provided the transcript to Time, and Time verified the contents. Novikov also confirmed that he’s cooperating with the New York Bar Association efforts to revoke Giuliani’s law license, and he’s believed to be open to working with the US Attorney’s office in the Southern District of New York on future investigations into the Trump attorney’s action to pressure the Ukrainian government to assist Trump’s campaign.
“That is because I believe Mayor Giuliani’s actions in Ukraine threatened our national security,” Novikov said. “It is our responsibility to make sure that any effort to drag our country into our allies’ domestic politics does not go unpunished.”